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15-Mar-87 08:19:18-PST,35887;000000000001 Return-Path: <SHULMAN%slb-test.csnet@RELAY.CS.NET> Received: from RELAY.CS.NET by SUMEX-AIM.STANFORD.EDU with TCP; Sun 15 Mar 87 08:18:39-PST Received: from relay2.cs.net by RELAY.CS.NET id ac01155; 15 Mar 87 10:39 EST Received: from slb-test by RELAY.CS.NET id ac20663; 15 Mar 87 10:32 EST Date: Sun, 15 Mar 87 10:14 EDT From: Jeffrey Shulman <SHULMAN%slb-test.csnet@RELAY.CS.NET> To: arpadigests#delphi-mac@ANDREW.CMU.EDU, BB-DELPHI-MAC-DIGEST%BIONET@SUMEX-AIM.STANFORD.EDU, BCO-INFO-MAC@BCO-MULTICS.ARPA, bboard.infomac@ACC.ARPA, berman@VAXA.ISI.EDU, bhyde%jasper.palladian.com@RELAY.CS.NET, big-mac@ARDEC.ARPA, broder@VAXA.ISI.EDU, ckagy%dartmouth.edu@RELAY.CS.NET, CSMIDDW@UCLA-CCN.ARPA, David_Bell%SFU.Mailnet@MIT-MULTICS.ARPA, DELPHI@CEEE-SED.ARPA, delphi-mac@ANL-MCS.ARPA, DELPHI-MAC@DREA-XX.ARPA, delphi-mac@LBL-UX4.ARPA, delphi-mac@MITRE.ARPA, delphi-mac@MITRE-BEDFORD.ARPA, DELPHI-MAC-DIGEST%TI-EG@RELAY.CS.NET, delphi-mac-local@MEDIA-LAB.MEDIA.MIT.EDU, Delphi-Mac-Digest@UM.CC.UMICH.EDU, dist-delphi-mac-digest@LOUIE.UDEL.EDU, dm@VAX.BBN.COM, dquah@ATHENA.MIT.EDU, elet@NMFECC.ARPA, Geoffm@AFSC-HQ.ARPA, greenes@HARVARD.HARVARD.EDU, GSB.MADLER%MIT-OZ@XX.LCS.MIT.EDU, hsg%duke.csnet@RELAY.CS.NET, HUNTER%upenn.csnet@RELAY.CS.NET, incoming-info-mac@DOCKMASTER.ARPA, Info-MAC%pco@BCO-MULTICS.ARPA, INFO-MAC-BBOARD%OZ.AI.MIT.EDU@XX.LCS.MIT.EDU, info-mac@BBN.COM, INFO-MAC%CS.UMASS.EDU@csnet-re Subject: Delphi Mac Digest V3 #16 Delphi Mac Digest Sunday, March 15, 1987 Volume 3 : Issue 16 Today's Topics: Disk Evaluations RE: Word 3.0 (5 messages) RE: LaserSpeed vs. new Laser Prep 4.0 startup (2 messages) System 4.0 & Tempo 1.1 (2 messages) MS-Basic Memory Upgrades RE: Memory Upgrade Opinions? (2 messages) Hannover Faire news (2 messages) memory map (5 messages) Prog.Start at certein Time... LW font request DiskTimerII results Re: new system/finder Re: Re: ROMS and NuBus RE: Carrying Case Warning Re: Remote Mac Access power supply/hardware problems FX/20 and FX/40 RSG3 updates? Dove/WARP NINE? (3 messages) dialog items filtering (4 messages) MW 3.0 400K disks Word Scatology ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MOUSEKETEER Subject: Disk Evaluations Date: 7-MAR-18:32: Hardware & Peripherals Disk Gazette, Issue #4 The Disk Gazette is a regular newsletter published by International Datawares, Inc. containing "news and information about microdiskettes". Each issue details the company's on-going testing of 3.5" diskettes. From the current Issue #4: Single Sided Sony JVC Rating: The Best! Rating: Excellent Problem rate: Better than 1 in 5,000 Problem rate: Better than 1 in 4,000 Quantity tested: More than 185,000 Quantity tested: Over 50,000 Head wear: Least amount Head wear: Very good Fujitsu Maxell Rating: Excellent Rating: Excellent Problem rate: Better than 1 in 3,000 Problem rate: Better than 1 in 3,000 Quantity tested: Over 15,000 Quantity tested: Over 20,000 Head wear: Very good Head wear: Very good BASF 3M Rating: Good Rating: Good Problem rate: About 1 in 2,000 Problem rate: Better than 1 in 1,500 Quantity tested: 20,000 Quantity tested: Over 5,000 Head wear: Very little Head wear: Not enough tested to say. Double Sided Sony JVC Rating: The Best! Rating: Excellent Problem rate: Better than 1 in 5,000 Problem rate: Better than 1 in 4,000 Quantity tested: More than 70,000 Quantity tested: Over 25,000 Head wear: Least amount Head wear: Almost as good as Sony Memorex Rating: Good Problem rate: 2 in 2,000 Quantity tested: 2,000 Head wear: Not enough tested to say. The listings and comments in the newsletter are more complete than the above. For a free subscription to The Diskette Gazette, send your name and address to: The Diskette Gazette, International Datawares,Inc., 2278 Trade Zone Blvd., San Jose, CA 95131 - and tell them MUGS Online/Delphi sent ya. Of course, they also offer most of the diskettes for sale, at very nice prices (i.e. Bulk Sony DS, min. 20, at $1.55 in your choice of white, dark blue, or the new platinum), less at quantities of 50, 100, and 400. Alf ------------------------------ From: RWIGGINS Subject: RE: Word 3.0 (Re: Msg 17889) Date: 7-MAR-19:18: Bugs & Features They call it a feature. In the docs they say that selecting "plain text" returns the text to the "default" font and style. I call it horse-hockey. This is a terrible program, and I intend to say so in my column. -- Robert ------------------------------ From: MOUSEKETEER Subject: RE: Word 3.0 (Re: Msg 17915) Date: 7-MAR-22:16: Bugs & Features Uh...let's not throw the mouse out with the Macwater, so to speak ;-). I don't think Word 3.0 is THE WP program for all time, but it sure the hey beats Word 1.05. I do keep bumping into things that I think could be improved, and the overall impression is that it was programmed by a committee which required majority rule on everything, but don't even think of trying to get me to go back to 1.05! I'm even willing to wait a year for the upgrade to fix some of the silliness it has within. They mention the Plain Text > Default "feature" in the manual? I guess I may need to read it...hehe. Alf ------------------------------ From: MACINTOUCH Subject: RE: Word 3.0 (Re: Msg 17915) Date: 9-MAR-11:40: Bugs & Features Just heard from a MacInTouch subscriber who was converting thousands of documents from Word 1.0 to Word 3.0. He called it "one of the buggiest" programs he'd seen from Microsoft. Here are some examples: - font size changes from 10pt to 12 pt on conversion from Word 1 - rapid memory use and resulting system crashes on a 512K Mac; this happens if you open and close a number of documents, even if they are small and even if they aren't keep open simultaneously - printing 10 copies of a document does them *one by one*! This is a major flaw if you're printing on a LaserWriter, and it's murder if you're printing graphics - Unlike Word 1, you can't put print merge fields in headers and footers - If you're trying to preview with a LaserWriter % reduction, you have to Print and Cancel, then go to preview, because the reduction size is in the Print dialog, not the Page Setup dialog. Ric Ford "MacInTouch" ------------------------------ From: CHUQ Subject: RE: Word 3.0 (Re: Msg 17990) Date: 9-MAR-21:23: Bugs & Features Yup. I've hung Word a few times with the multi-file botch. Open anywhere from four to 8 Word files -- close them (don't even need to save them!) and you can hang your machine when you quit. Another bothc: When you use 'save as' to save something in word 1.0 format ( which you need to do if you're exporting it to anything, including RSG3) the document is renamed 'untitled<num>' and if you then try to close it, it asks you to save it. foo. Word doesn't default to the old format of the file, so if you're working with another prog that needs 1.0 format, you're either keeping two copies around or constantly trying to use 'wave as' and working around Words attempt to convince you to use the default format. Almost as if they WANT to be obnoxious about non-3.0 formats. Word 3.0 doesn't know how to open old word files -- they cahnged the application string, so double-clicking a 1.0 format doesn't work anymore. non-intuitive. I still think 3.0 is neat, but I feel like I'm working with beta software. sigh. when will word 3.0.0.0.1 be out? chuq ------------------------------ From: LAMG Subject: RE: Word 3.0 (Re: Msg 17990) Date: 14-MAR 02:15 Bugs & Features Here's another one for the Word bug list: when the document window is split in two, sometimes clicking in the "down arrow" of the LOWER part of the window causes the text in the UPPER part of the window to scroll! ------------------------------ From: DDUNHAM Subject: RE: LaserSpeed vs. new Laser Prep (Re: Msg 17876) Date: 7-MAR-21:20: Bugs & Features I, and a friend, are doing the same for a different reason -- both of us made signature fonts with Fontographer. Neither one gets downloaded with 3.3. ------------------------------ From: JOSEF Subject: 4.0 startup Date: 7-MAR-22:25: Business Mac I tried to create a System 4.0 startup disk with the following method: initialize a disk; copy the system folder to it; use Fedit + to put the boot blocks on it. Result: this disk won't boot. This method used to work for older systems, and I find it to be a real nuisance that it doesn't anymore. Anyone know what the problem is? Joe ------------------------------ From: JEFFS Subject: RE: 4.0 startup (Re: Msg 17923) Date: 7-MAR-22:58: Business Mac When you copy the System folder (or anything containing the Finder/System), the Finder will automatically add boot blocks, you need not use Fedit+. Perhaps there is some incompatibility with that version (I was told version 2.0 of Fedit+ is due out as early as the end of this month.) Jeff ------------------------------ From: LAMG Subject: System 4.0 & Tempo 1.1 Date: 8-MAR-00:26: Business Mac I can't seem to get Tempo 1.1 to work with the new System software... with Tempo installed, the Mac boots but doesn't get past the Startup Screen. Anyone have better luck? -Franklin / LAMG ------------------------------ From: RIVEREAST Subject: RE: System 4.0 & Tempo 1.1 (Re: Msg 17933) Date: 8-MAR-23:16: Business Mac I've used Tempo v.1.1b with the new System 4.0 for a week without any trouble on my hard drive. I just installed Tempo 1.1b with Tempo Installer on my new system. Yasu Kawahigashi ------------------------------ From: BVTAUCHNITZ Subject: MS-Basic Date: 8-MAR-07:39: Programming Hello Does anyone know how to force the LW+ to print different fonts from MS- Basic 3.0(Compiler 1.0)? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks Bernhard ------------------------------ From: FALCON1TORCH Subject: Memory Upgrades Date: 8-MAR-11:17: Hardware & Peripherals I'm interested on feedback on MAC 512KE memory and SCSI port upgrades. The new ads for Dove upgrades look interesting, at least the price is good. Can these be user (reasonable electronics background) installed? How many pins the port have (25 or 50)? Do you have any experience with the product? M Macmemory appears good also? Has any one heard about the Turbomax board? How much is it? These obviously is rambling but hopefully it can generated a thread with useful information in it. Tom Darner ------------------------------ From: GUSPETERS Subject: RE: Memory Upgrade Opinions? (Re: Msg 17967) Date: 8-MAR-22:45: Hardware & Peripherals Dave, Dove does also have a 2 meg upgrade. The place I got mine has they priced at about 450.00 I think. hey have good documentation and instructions for installation also. Easy to follow. ------------------------------ From: JOSEF Subject: RE: Memory Upgrade Opinions? (Re: Msg 17972) Date: 10-MAR 01:22 Hardware & Peripherals I picked up a Dove upgrade at the last SF Expo to take my plus to 2 Megs(using the 256K chips). It's been working great ever since. Easy to install too, even for a klutz like myself. Hardest part was getting the case open and faking out the torx head screws with a regular screwdiver. (This actually works if they're not too tight--I finally managed to get the right size torx screwdiver after 2 trips to the store, but then the shaft turned out to be too short!) Joe ------------------------------ From: INTECO Subject: Hannover Faire news Date: 8-MAR-17:06: Business Mac Some news from the Hannover Faire (CEBIT) 1987 I have visited for 3 days the Faire and like give a special report on Apple related news. The Apple booth was very quite crowded as usual. A lot of people were asking for the Macintosh II which was shown in serval units. The release date for regular buyers will be September 87 with a standard configuration of 2 MByte Ram, 40 MByte Quantum hard disc, monochrom monitor and video card and a price of about 18000,00 DM ($1 = 1,84 DM). The color version will be about 2000,00 DM more. The color slide show is quite spectacular. Not shown open in the public I found a Mac II equiped with a high-rez (probably 1024*768 SuperMac ?) video card but the used monitor could not display the quality expected. The Mac II color monitor from Apple is superb. You would not notice that you use a color monitor if there is no color apple in the upper left of the screen. The Mac SE was available in all configurations but a lot of people I spoke did not like the design. The Mac SE is available now and has a price of 8900,00 DM with two drives and 10900,00 DM with 20 MByte hard disc. The tape backup and the 80 MByte hard disc were shown, too. The price of the Macintosh Plus is lowered to 6400,00 DM which should give it better chance in the German market place. The most remarkable piece of software I found on the booth was the database 4th dimension, a database program developed in France and obviously sailing now under the Apple logo (the long awaited Silver Surfer?). It offers all layout capabilities you could think of (like MacDraw), the database design is similiar to Reflex from Borland and the programming language is like Pascal with over 200 procedures and functions. From the technical point you will never reach any of the given maximal specifications but perhaps pictures which can have the size of up to 32kBytes (well, I think of color pictures). Password protection, multi user capabilities and tele- communication are some of the other features. And finally Apple is going to establish developer support similiar to to APDA here in Germany and in Europe to close the gap between the distribution times of developer software here and in the States. So MPW 2.0 is announced to come very soon. - Uwe ------------------------------ From: RCONGDON Subject: RE: Hannover Faire news (Re: Msg 17959) Date: 10-MAR 23:34 Business Mac This is one of several mentions I've seen of MPW 2.0. Anyone have any idea what features this update will include? Heck, MPW 1.0 just became "official" at the MacWorld Expo in January. ------------------------------ From: JOSEF Subject: memory map Date: 7-MAR-22:28: Programming Techniques I seem to be unable to locate a memory map of the Mac anywhere: not in IM, not in the Tech notes, not anywhere. So could anyone tell me what exists at the address $F80000 (Please note the # of zeroes: this is not in ram, but somewhere in the upper quadrant of the 68000's 16 Meg addressable range). Joe ------------------------------ From: PEABO Subject: RE: memory map (Re: Msg 1314) Date: 8-MAR-15:43: Programming Techniques That is not one of the addresses listed specifically in IM vol 3 "The Macintosh Hardware", but the decoding of I/O references is notoriously imprecise (which is why accesses above $00800000 freeze the mouse so easily). Are you having trouble with something referencing that address? peter ------------------------------ From: LOGICHACK Subject: RE: memory map (Re: Msg 1319) Date: 9-MAR-01:10: Programming Techniques Joe: $f80000 is an address Apple ROMs check for diagnostic routines. In the 128K ROMs, it looks for an $aa5555aa (or was it the other way around?) there and if it finds it, assume the following long word is a pointer to diagnostic code and jumps to it. That's how the HyperDrive was able to boot itself. It is also used by Levco in their memory and processor upgrades to patch Apple ROMs and things of that ilk. Paul :) ------------------------------ From: JOSEF Subject: RE: memory map (Re: Msg 1328) Date: 11-MAR 03:15 Programming Techniques If nothing resides at $F80000, I find it rather curious that reading that location returns a $6116. In other 68000-based systems that I have worked with, accessing a memory location that doesn't exist either causes a DTACK hang (a nasty problem which the Mac designers cleverly avoided) or typically returns all F's. Joe ------------------------------ From: PEABO Subject: RE: memory map (Re: Msg 1333) Date: 11-MAR 10:41 Programming Techniques It would be interesting to know if $6116 is returned on all models of Mac or even the same from one individual machine to another! If the bus is a tristate bus that is terminated to an intermediate voltage, then reading an undriven bus would tend to produce one's, but with very little noise immunity. In particular the value read back might depend on what other data had appeared on the bus in recent instruction cycles. I saw somewhere recently advice to precharge the bus by preceding the instruction for reading by a dozen or so opcodes with as many ones in them as possible (and to follow the instruction with the same opcodes to cover the case where the instructions were being prefetched). Try that and see what you get. peter ------------------------------ From: INTECO Subject: Prog.Start at certein Time... Date: 8-MAR-17:15: Programming Techniques Is there any program existing that starts a program (telecommunication) at a certain time. The time manager works only within a program what I need is something that calls my program a defined time if the finder is the running program, so the user gets only interrupted if he is idle. I do not want to write a new finder. Any suggestions? Uwe ------------------------------ From: TSTEIN Subject: LW font request Date: 8-MAR-21:43: Creative Pursuits Do you know of anyone who has a LaserWriter font designed that simulates the IBM PC character set. I am trying to print PC screen dumps, via Word, on a LW and would not like to reimplement a PC font if one exists. If I can't find one, it seems the only alternative is Fontographer, which I'm not eager to dive into. ------------------------------ From: BRECHER Subject: DiskTimerII results Date: 9-MAR-03:38: Hardware & Peripherals These are reported results from the DiskTimerII program as of Mar. 7, 1987. DiskTimerII measures performance on large (24KB) data transfers and on access time (seeking, head movement). The results are independent of the file system, cache, amount of free space, System and Finder versions, etc. There is no direct translation of these results to perceived performance in ordinary Mac usage. On HyperDrives, the seek test provides meaningful results only when run from a drawer which is contiguous for more than 1MB. Multiple results from the same drive by the same submittor which vary by not more than 5% have been combined into one report by taking the best result for each of the three tests. Where three or more reports from different submittors on the same drive were available, I have omitted those having results on all three tests which fell between the best and worst shown below for that drive. Additional reports are welcome. --- time in deciseconds --- 100 24KB 100 24KB 80 1MB Model, Vendor [Note] Reads Writes Seeks Reported by --------------------- -------- -------- ------ ------------ AST-2000, AST Research 192 192 48 Fred Fischer AST-2000, AST Research 192 192 48 David Rose Bernoulli Box 20-20, Iomega 205 205 36 Panos DataFrame 20, SuperMac [1] 146 146 69 Dan Clark/SuperMac DataFrame 20, SuperMac [1] 147 147 61 Robert Murrow DataFrame 20, SuperMac [1] 194 194 80 Carlos Weber DataFrame 20, SuperMac [2] 98 98 38 David Berry DataFrame 20, SuperMac [2] 98 99 69 Dan Clark/SuperMac DataFrame 20, SuperMac [2] 99 99 62 Harry Conover DataFrame 20, SuperMac [2] 99 99 80 Harry Conover DataFrame 20, SuperMac [2] 99 98 59 SuperMac DataFrame XP20, SuperMac 52 55 38 SuperMac DataFrame upgrade to XP20, SuperMac 54 55 62 Brian Hall DataFrame XP40, SuperMac 52 51 18 Dan Clark/SuperMac DataFrame XP40, SuperMac [3] 52 70 18 Ira Rampil Direct Drive 20, Jasmine 110 110 37 R. Lesnick Direct Drive 80, Jasmine 129 126 20 Ric Ford Direct Drive 80, Jasmine 127 125 21 Rob Hahn DynaMac portable Mac 40MB internal 165 163 33 Steve Bobker Easy Drive 20MB, DCC Systems 192 206 37 Tom Hensley Easy Drive 30MB, DCC Systems 422 425 36 "Max"/MouseHole Easy Drive 40MB, DCC Systems [4] 140 314 36 Tim Smith Ehman 20HD, Ehman Engineering 579 1104 49 R. Lesnick Hard Disk 20 (floppy port), Apple 872 996 61 Steve Bobker Hard Disk 20 (floppy port), Apple 848 969 60 Jean Hess HardMAC+20, CMC 285 286 36 Joseph DiGangi HD20SC (SCSI), Apple 155 155 37 Brian Hall HD20SC (SCSI), Apple 156 154 38 Norman Fong HD20SC (SCSI), Apple 157 157 39 P. Williams/Apple HyperDrive 10MB (Mac Plus), GCC 186 190 N/A Rich Goldberg HyperDrive 10MB (Mac Plus), GCC 186 187 42 Tim Smith HyperDrive 20MB, GCC 190 188 32 Norman Fong HyperDrive 20MB (Mac Plus), GCC 187 187 29 Philip Kinsler HyperDrive 20MB (512K), GCC 187 187 34 Paul Rainey HyperDrive FX20 (SCSI), GCC 154 231 37 Brian Hall HyperDrive FX20 (SCSI), GCC 154 218 38 Philip Kinsler HyperDrive FX20 (SCSI), GCC 153 224 37 Michael Root LoDOWN 20, LoDOWN 102 107 39 Bill Steinberg Mac II internal 20SC, Apple 51 61 34 Monty Solomon Mac SE internal 20MB, Apple 78 74 50 John Mitchell Mac SE internal 20MB, Apple 75 73 49 Monty Solomon MacBottom 10 (serial port), PCPC 503 846 91 Rod Paine MacBottom 10 (serial port), PCPC 507 855 97 T. Scotta MacBottom HD21 (SCSI), PCPC 164 162 49 Rod Paine MacBottom HD21 (SCSI), PCPC 162 165 48 Paul Rainey MacBottom HD21 (SCSI), PCPC 162 164 50 Bill Steinberg MacDrive 10MB, Tecmar 717 795 59 Chip Nicolais MacDrive 5MB removeable, Tecmar 750 784 104 Gene Madill MacMate 20, Relax 192 197 37 M. Azarnoff MacMate 20, Relax 194 292 37 Larry Hosmer MacSlimLine 20 fixed, Univation 172 211 38 Robert Yellen " 10 removeable " 305 363 107 " " Magic20, Rabbit Industries 199 464 37 Larry Halff Magic65, Rabbit Industries 422 425 15 Norman Fong Magnet 20x, Mirror Technologies 173 203 38 Hoffman Magnet 30x, Mirror Technologies 140 438 36 Hoffman MagNet 40/40, Mirror Technologies 139 198 36 Norman Fong MicahDrive 20 AT, MICAH 54 58 70 Fred Fischer MicahDrive 20 AT, MICAH 55 63 68 Fred Fischer MicahDrive 20 AT, MICAH 56 82 73 Fred Fischer MicahDrive 20 AT, MICAH 57 72 74 Ted May MicahDrive 20 AT, MICAH 55 78 79 David Rose OverDrive 20, Prodigy 4, Levco [1] 79 1058 50 Kiyomasa Ono OverDrive 20, Prodigy 4, Levco [2] 145 145 49 Kiyomasa Ono Photon 20, Warp Nine Engineering 174 203 39 Duane Williams Photon 30, Warp Nine Engineering 140 450 38 Bill Steinberg PL 20, Peripheral Land 241 240 38 Steve Maller PL 30, Peripheral Land 228 236 38 Steve Maller Plus-30, Peak Systems 141 439 37 David Alpert Plus-30, Peak Systems 139 438 38 Joel West ProApp 40, ProApp 163 161 28 John Mitchell QC 20 811 814 N/A Neal Kaforey Relax Technologies 150MB 420 420 48 John Mitchell Rodime 20 internal 109 108 49 Brian Hall Rodime 20 Plus, Rodime 107 106 50 Jim Brown Rodime 20 Plus, Rodime 108 106 49 Daniel Piette S20+, Peachtree Technology 162 162 48 Junji Kazama S220-s, CMS 285 286 37 Jeff Segawa Warp 20 (in 512E), Warp Nine 443 443 42 Fred Fischer WhisperDrive 21, Palo Alto Mic'Sys.102 212 38 Jim Hu WhisperDrive 21, Palo Alto Mic'Sys.193 193 40 Kurt Wanfried Notes: [1] Old version [2] Current version [3] Mean of three trials [4] 3:1 sector interleave ------------------------------ From: BRECHER Subject: Re: new system/finder Date: 9-MAR-04:53: MUGS Online To: wetter@tybalt.caltech.edu (Pierce T. Wetter) Subject: Re: new system/finder > Okay, I've just started using 5.4/3.3 find/sys when I notice this > beaker shaped icon in the upper right hand corner of the screen. Hmmm... This is evidence that the Sticky Keys INIT is functioning. The INIT is installed from a file, Sticky Keys, in the System Folder. It is activated by pressing the Shift key five times in succession. Sticky Keys enables the user (most likely a handicapped user) to use the Shift, Option, and Cmd keys by striking them instead of holding them down concurrently with another key. It's easier to understand the details of its operation by experimenting in a text editor than it is to explain. If you don't need Sticky Keys, you can remove the file from your System folder and thereby save some system heap memory. ------------------------------ From: BRECHER Subject: Re: Re: ROMS and NuBus Date: 9-MAR-04:53: MUGS Online To: mdr@reed.UUCP (Mike Rutenberg) Subject: Re: Re: ROMS and NuBus > Q: Do MacII and SE ROMS have the same content? No. The II ROMs are an approximate superset of the SE ROMs. The II ROMs contain, among other extras, Color QuickDraw, Color Manager, Slot Manager, color extensions to the various user interface managers, and an Acta file containing a detailed inventory of Jean Louis Gassee's wine cellar. There are also differences due to different hardware, such as in the startup code and SCSI Manager. ------------------------------ From: MACINTOUCH Subject: RE: Carrying Case Warning (Re: Msg 17392) Date: 9-MAR-08:46: Business Mac It seems that I'm guilty of making a judgement in haste. I just pulled my Mac out of my MacTote, and *zzapp!* So the moral is, watch out for static with *all* the carrying cases, and make sure you don't touch the pins on your external disk drive, or on your Mac, when you're all charged up. Ric Ford "MacInTouch" newsletter ------------------------------ From: MACINTOUCH Subject: Re: Remote Mac Access (Re: Msg 17953) Date: 9-MAR-10:20: Network Digests To: barry@reed.UUCP (Barry Smith) Subject: Re: Remote Mac Access We've seen reports in InfoWorld and heard from our own subscribers that there are bugs in the Interbridge that appear when using TOPS. That's about as specific as I've got it, but I'm wondering about the wisdom of investing all that money in hardware if the system isn't going to work smoothly. Does anyone else have much experience with this setup? Ric Ford "MacInTouch" newsletter ------------------------------ From: MACINTOUCH Subject: power supply/hardware problems Date: 9-MAR-10:42: Hardware & Peripherals I haven't seen anything about this online yet, so I thought I'd mention that the March 87 issue of "MacTutor" has the first really good article on power supply/hardware problems in the Macintosh. Well worth getting a copy. Loy Spurlock, who runs a Mac repair center, says that the "power supply" is really not related to the problem, that the real problem is in early Macs, which have video "flyback transformers" that fry themselves. Apple has apparently changed suppliers and has a better transformer now. Loy suggests that a fan may well help prevent the older ones from croaking. He also says that the power supply is adequate to handle well-designed RAM upgrades to 2MB, citing Levco as an example. He reiterates previous advice about always adjusting the power supply voltage after a change, but adds that you have to "balance" the 5V and 12V outputs. Another problem, less frequent than flyback transformer failure, seems to be cold solder joints. (A number of reports on the nets have given examples of this as well). I hope this short description has done justice to the article; I'd highly recommend picking up a copy of this issue of "MacTutor" and reading the whole thing. Ric Ford "MacInTouch" newsletter ------------------------------ From: MACINTOUCH Subject: FX/20 and FX/40 Date: 9-MAR-16:07: Hardware & Peripherals General Computer has lengthened the warranty on the HyperDrive FX/20 external SCSI disk to 1 year. (It was previously 90 days). Shipment of the FX/40 has been delayed, due to problems with the disk drive used inside which were discovered during GCC's final testing and certification. Ric Ford ------------------------------ From: CHUQ Subject: RSG3 updates? Date: 9-MAR-21:26: Bugs & Features anyone hear any rumors of Letraset doing an upgrade on RSG 3.0 to fix some of the known bugs (and hopefully take care of some of the misfeatures?) I was going to call adn bitch (I'm tired of crashing text blocks) but I thought I'd check the group mind... chuq ------------------------------ From: CHUQ Subject: Dove/WARP NINE? Date: 9-MAR-21:30: SIG Business The latest Macwrold has ads for Warp nine and Dove that show I can get a 20 Meg drive, SCSI, and 2 megabyte upgrade (all no solder) for my 512kE for about 1100 total. My question is: what are the track records for these prodcuts? What kind of compatibility between these add-on's is there? Anyone get these working together yet? Or should I go for a Mac-0Plus upgrade from Apple and buy a normal hard disk? chuq ------------------------------ From: MACINTOUCH Subject: RE: Dove/WARP NINE? (Re: Msg 18003) Date: 9-MAR-22:00: SIG Business I'd sell the 512KE, take the $1100, and try to get an SE cheap... Ric ------------------------------ From: CHUQ Subject: RE: Dove/WARP NINE? (Re: Msg 18006) Date: 9-MAR-22:57: SIG Business The big win on the SE seems to be the slot, whihc I don't need. A + is all I really want right now, because I'd rather use it for another year or so and then buy the Mac II when I outgrow it. The SE doesn't have enough value added for it to be worth it (to me, he emphasizes) and I can't afford the Mac II. Yet. Now, if I could just sell a few articles, or that novel.... (and since there is no + to SE or II upgrade path, I'm now a lot LESS hyper about a third party upgrade, especially if it is clip compatible.) chuq ------------------------------ From: JIMH Subject: dialog items filtering Date: 10-MAR 00:56 Programming I am writing a modal dialog that has several edit text items. 4 of these items i want to accept only numbers, so i wrote a filterproc that looks at the item number passed into the filterproc from modal dialog. However it appears that that number is bogus most of the time. Usually the item number i get is -1 but occasionally i do get the correct item number. is there anyway to tell what item number the event occured in? I also looked at findDITem from new ROMS but theeventrecord hands me mouse position not where the keydown occured. Any guidance would be much appreciated. thanks jim ------------------------------ From: PEABO Subject: RE: dialog items filtering (Re: Msg 18018) Date: 11-MAR 00:07 Programming I have a modal dialog in which I need to detect clicks in the scroll bar. The way I do it is to do a PtInRect of the mouse coordinates in the event record to see if it lies in the bounding rectable of the scroll bar. (Remebering to convert to local to global the rectangle.) I'd guess that the number you are seeing that is so frequently -1 is being set from the previous event (a left-over number), which would account for its being somewhat unpredictible. I think that the itemHit parameter to your filter proc is an *output* not an input. peter ------------------------------ From: JIMH Subject: RE: dialog items filtering (Re: Msg 18047) Date: 11-MAR 00:53 Programming Peter, i am getting keyboard events in the edit text item and thus i cant use the mouse location. I agree it appears that item hit is an input but no reason it has to be that i can see. thanks jim ------------------------------ From: PEABO Subject: RE: dialog items filtering (Re: Msg 18052) Date: 11-MAR 01:40 Programming Every reference to itemHit seems to be accompanied by the statement that you use it to return the item number to ModalDialog (pages I-415 and 416). I was thinking that you would ahve to select the text with the mouse, which would tell you, but of course that's not necessarily the case (you could tab into an edit item). HOWEVER, take a look at 'editField' in DialogRecord. I think that is what you are looking for (I-429 and somewhere in the text). peter ------------------------------ From: DSACHS Subject: MW 3.0 400K disks Date: 10-MAR 20:36 Bugs & Features Apparently Microsoft is short-disking anyone who orders Word 3.0 on 400K disks Several files seem to be present on the 800K disk version only, the British version of the spelling dictionary and the LaserWriter examples. Also the documentation as to the use of Word on a Mac with 400K disks is NOT included. ------------------------------ From: DSACHS Subject: Word Scatology Date: 10-MAR 20:39 Bugs & Features Apparently Microsoft has a completely lack of policy with regard to certain words, that normally do not appear in print. Of 6 such words, the spelling checker accepted 4 and rejected 2. ------------------------------ End of Delphi Mac Digest ************************